Onion Services

I've been messing with Tor since adding SOCKS5 support to Alhena. I think the whole onion service thing is interesting and was surprised to find a few in Gemini. I set up my own service (temporarily) to see what was involved. I like the idea for running one but I'm wondering why.

Is the motivation mostly to show support for the technology?

🦎 bluesman

Oct 12 Β· 2 days ago Β· πŸ‘ ps

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πŸ‘» ps Β· Oct 12 at 15:20:

I'm not using tor, but interesting to bookmark I2P if exists.

🦎 bluesman [OP] · Oct 12 at 16:08:

@ps I keep meaning to check out I2P as well.

πŸ™ norayr Β· Oct 12 at 16:44:

tor among other things allows to selfhost without having a real ip.

but it is slow, it requires that your town or country have an access to tor root servers, and it is designed to anonymize.

yggdrasil on the other hand also allows to selfhost, but is fast, utilizes ipv6, has end to end encryphion, creates a mesh network over hierarchical, dependent from geography internet. and of course doesn't anonymize.

i think if everyone just had ygg installed we would solve the problems we have, i. e. everyone would be able to self host, everyone would be able to access.

πŸ‘» ps Β· Oct 12 at 17:07:

@norayr ygg is local vpn, when i2p is an additional (application) layer.

anyway, I'm using ygg to connect i2p network (with i2pd)


In my opinion, the main problem with mesh networks to use them directly is that there is no single input address. By using few raw IPs you never know which link is better to share. Therefore, I found I2P useful for creating a shared, permanent domain with enhanced privacy for visitors.

Tor project is not interesting for me, but it is created to access Internet, so that's different goals I'm looking for.

πŸ™ norayr Β· Oct 12 at 20:34:

it created for different purposes, for instance to publish data and not be found by those who don't want it to be published.

πŸ‘» ps Β· Oct 12 at 21:02:

After years of experience with mesh networks like Yggdrasil, I'm starting to interpret mesh networks literally: it’s just a network socket (IPv6, in this case) that provides me with a gateway to the free, community-driven internet universe. Unfortunately, this gateway is not sufficient to navigate the entire space in a world where every step is logged by the system. That's why I2P seems like a stealth add-on for my spaceship, even if it makes it a bit slower.


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