Watching Zack Snyder's Justice League for the first time. I never realized how much Joss Whedon butchered the first-released version of this movie. Wow. And apparently he's a massive dick too, and tons of actors will never work with him again.
He literally cut some of the best most emotional scenes of this movie. And apparently he took The Avengers script and just rewrote it without contacting the original writer.
Many of the Justice League and Buffy actors all agree that he was abusive. So that's tons of actors and writers from at least 3 different sets (Buffy, Marvel, and DC).
It's crazy he ever got far enough to make the movies he did.
No matter your opinions on Zack Snyder's style, I'm still glad he got to make the version of Justice League that it was supposed to be from the very beginning before some abusive asshole came in and bullied the cast into a crappy version of the movie.
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Thanks for filling my life with negativity <3
Shame it felt like they were desperately trying to play catch up, rather than be their own thing. Affleck as Batman worked IMHO too, unpopular opinion probably.
๐ clseibold [OP] ยท 5 hours ago:
@meidam Just to be clear, the movie I'm talking about that had all the cuts by Joss Whedon is called "Justice League". Zack Snyder had to stop working on Justice League during post-production because a family member died, and Joss Whedon came in and cut a bunch of stuff and reshot things Zack Snyder already shot. Zack Snyder's Justice League was released years later and Snyder was able to put most of the original footage he shot back, only having to reshoot 5 extra minutes of the movie. Almost everyone agrees that Zack's version is better, critics and viewers alike, even if they still have problems with Zack's original version.
Anyways, A life cannot be free from negativity. It's unhealthy. If you have no pain or negativity, then you cannot appreciate the positive. If you have no pain or negativity, then you have no drive or emotional attachment to improving the world and doing better. If you have not experienced pain or negativity, directly *or indirectly*, then you have no sense of the importance of justice. Ignoring pain doesn't make it go away.
And yet, the opposite is also true: the positive gives us hope in the future and what's possible. The positive of this post is that Whedon no longer works at DC or Marvel and thus has a significantly reduced chance of hurting any more people, including those underage (I take sexual assault very seriously, having experienced it myself).
In addition, Snyder was finally able to put back all of his original shots that Whedon replaced with his own, and re-edit it into what it was supposed to be, making an imensely better movie because of it.
I don't know about you, but I think these things are positives; I cannot talk about how great it is that Joss Whedon is no longer involved in big movies without talking about how awful he was.
๐ clseibold [OP] ยท 5 hours ago:
@Ashnar I actually really liked Snyder's movies. I don't really understand the hate for his style, personally. I think he is a great director.
But I don't like Ezra Miller as The Flash. The Flash will always be Grant Gustin, so I really do hope that the DC Universe soft reboot brings him in to the movies. He is just a good flash. Ezra Miller might have nailed the nerdiness and jokes, but Grant Gustin has the nerdiness, jokes, *and* the emotion when it's needed. Ezra Miller never had that in Justice League, at least.
Also, the parallel universes with The Joker and Robert Pattinson Batman (and even Arrowverse) being separate from the DCEU was confusing. DCU could fix this.
So while I'm sad the DCEU didn't pan out fully, I am excited to see how DCU is going to turn out, especially knowing that James Gunn is taking a very methodical approach to aproving scripts. I guess we'll see how it starts in a couple days, when Superman comes out.
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