Been spending some free time putting Windows 11 on my 12 year old desktop (I know). It's amazing how much Microsoft is trying to kill off old hardware for no reason. Had to use Rufus to bypass the hardware check. I got a new SSD, and 8 gig ram on a fresh install and it runs just fine for my needs. Forced obsolescence.
reinstalling apps and WSL has actually been enjoyable if I'm being honest.
#hardware #Windows_11
Apr 06 · 3 months ago · 👍 clseibold
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I built my main Windows PC back in 2012. It was top of the line then so it works just fine for most things I need. I'm guessing it's a relative power hog though.
Microsoft keeps warning me that a) support stops in October and b) my PC doesn't support Windows 11. I haven't looked into it but I'm guessing from your comment there may be workarounds.
🍀 gritty [OP] · Apr 06 at 09:44:
@bluesman this is exactly why I upgraded, they are killing windows 10 to force you to upgrade and get all new systems in the process. Seems like a coordinated effort to me.
I got an OEM key from kinguin for a full install, downloaded the iso from MS, and let Rufus do its thing to disable the hardware check in the iso. Then installed it to a fresh SSD. I'm still impressed by how much an SSD can do for performance on an older computer.
Thanks for the info. I'll investigate. I did put in an SSD three or four years ago and it was like I had a totally different machine. This is a dual boot PC with Windows and Hackintosh (another cool thing going the way of the dodo).
even win8/win10 was barely usable on my T430 which is 13yo at this point, but back then it was just 10. absolute dogshit software. on void linux it behaves just as new, same goes for T60 which is almost 20yo now :)
All of my machines are at least 10 years old. Other than the number of cores, not too much difference really, certainly not worth hundreds of dollars to upgrade. Funny to think of an i7 with 8GB as obsolete...
But then again, I haven't written more than 8K of code on my 64K 6502 machine this year.
👻 darkghost · Apr 06 at 16:05:
You need more hardware to support the features you don't want that are always running and can't be disabled. Copilot anybody? Forced OneDrive integration? How about ads? Gotta have lots of system resources for ads.
Microsoft forcing system upgrades for the latest OS is a tale as old as time. Well, at least as old as Windows 95, which on a 386 ran like molasses in winter at the south pole. The 386 was ten years old, but I'd say the majority of your 386s were sold in the late 80s or very early 90s, meaning they weren't that uncommon or old by 1995. Even a 486 with 4 MB of RAM was not great.
my kids' computers have Win11 only has fallback, they run Debian by default. Actually one of those computer is telling me that Win11 is expired, and I don't understand what does it means since it doesn't allow me to buy anything...
Luckily or devilishly since all the services are in the cloud you can use whatever you want as long as a browser that supports them, so I have LibreWolf as a main browser and Vivaldi as backup.
👻 darkghost · Apr 26 at 11:18:
I'd be curious to know what win11 expiring also means. It's on the computer and unless you're procuring from sources that fly the Jolly Roger, there isn't an excuse for legit copies to get disabled. Unless it's one of these things where it has to phone home every month or whatever.
At least they failed to lock the conputer up with secure whatever chip... For a while I was sure that they would eradicate linux that way.
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