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If there is a desktop client you like, but it doesn't have E2E, you might consider using it with pantalaimon. I'm using ement.el successfully this way.

There is a good TUI client called gomuks, if that is something you would be interested in.

Otherwise, on desktop, I use a web client in my existing web browser, which avoids the extra overhead of electron. Element is fine, but Cinny is also nice and a bit lighter.

I also agree that FluffyChat is the nicest Android client; Schilde Chat is also good.

~ew wrote (thread):

Well, well, I, I even failed to get a matrix account :-) I tried several times, but I did not get enough google credits or whatever. So I have to hang out in the bar, while the chatting is going on in the Matrix room. Fine with me.

~edisondotme wrote (thread):

Why do you need a desktop client?

I agree electron.js existence is irksome.

I use Element in the browser and I'm doing alright.

~lufte wrote (thread):

How flexible is the matrix protocol? Can one take an existing IM client (like pidgin) and write a matrix connector for it?

~johano wrote (thread):

Just out of curiosity, what's your opinion on XMPP/Jabber?

~tskaalgard wrote:

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