Comment by ⛄️ gim
Re: "Gemini trademark conflict"
@sbr do you EVER type http(s)
(I think every browser now has a switch to always force https, a.k.a. HttpsEverywhere)
Aug 10 · 2 months ago
Poll Results
1. Ignore it
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2. Contact Google and fight it (Gemini *DID* pre-date Google's Gemini)
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3. Rebrand gemini to something else?
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91 votes were cast.
17 Later Comments ↓
🐧 the_mantelman · Aug 10 at 07:09:
I have recently begun to use more niche web browsers like Netsurf and Servo alongside the more established ones, and they don't always have https only. However, I think this discussion is going off-topic.
I wanted to explore some of what option 3 might look like, out of curiosity as I and most everyone voted for 1. Talking about copyright was getting dull.
And yes, I write the protocol in all the time, when writing content that links to other content outside my relative path.
This discussion made zero sense in the first place as there is no trademark conflict.
As a final thought, I love that we are using a Google-trademarked name and they can't do a thing about it.
Why would we change anything?
p.s. Copyright was not mentioned once here!
@sbr your STP protocol exists, its nex://
I always enter the scheme when it is not a relative URL, because I have it configured to treat entered URLs as relative when the scheme is omitted. I don't use HTTPS everywhere either (and I have changed it so that HSTS will not work).
what is google?
🚀 kleuinrg33 · Aug 12 at 22:52:
I vote ignore it too. good people will eventually find this place.
to me the name 'gemini' and link to the space program is a little bit too much american patriotic.
gopher i understand as grassroots or network of underground tunners - that would describe what we have as gemini well.
perhaps i would prefer something agnostic like http oc xmpp: mdpp (just invented it): minimalistic data publishing protocol.
oh @sbr already said it, and suggested better abbreviations.
aaa look what i found, IANA Service Name and Transport Protocol Port Number Registry, gemini‑lm is indeed registered for port 1590 on both TCP and UDP protocols.
by Tom Sawer
It is not our port or our gemini.
by Tony Sawyer, i misread the name (:
what is
Dude just ignore it
@norayr was also thinking similar things regarding american/space program connection. I like short names but am also not sure how I feel about celebrating a multi billion dollar pissing contest that involved settings tons of fossil fuels on fire and developing the military industrial complex, Instead of improving the lives of people on this planet.
👻 darkghost · Aug 13 at 10:27:
I think it was a cute attempt to show that Gemini is halfway between the moon (http) and those first protocols (gopher et al). Gemini is less rigid than gopher but much less capable than http. Of course the sequencing is all wrong but whatever.
🎲 gonzosnose · Aug 27 at 07:53:
It's frustrating having to dig a little to find the actual gemini protocol specifications, but I guess nothing can be done. Even if Google's Gemini dies it'll still be clogging search results for ages.
First two google results for “gemini internet protocol” (without quotes) just now are:
1. Wikipedia article about us
2. Gemini Quickstart (https://geminiquickst.art) which tells how to get a gemini browser and get into gemini space.
That’s pretty darn good.
If you want to compete for just the word “gemini” you are literally fighting the stars.
👺 kallisti5 [OP] · Sep 05 at 15:06:
@pista yeah, it's still reasonably easy to find gemini if you add on the correct search modifiers. It *is* however getting more difficult to find as Google's Gemini takes off.
🚀 omorrigan · Oct 07 at 03:26:
the advocates for the protocol should be clear on the talks, we are taltkin about Gemini Protocol and not the Google dogfood
Would you please lock this nonsensical thread
Original Post
Gemini trademark conflict — Anyone else notice that Google is using the Gemini branding for their AI crap? It's taking over the search results for gemini. Getting harder and harder to find things Gemini-related without stumbling over Google's AI rubbish. What should Gemini do?
💬 kallisti5 · 66 comments · Aug 07 · 2 months ago · 🗳️
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